Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

 

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Hi,

We are currently researching on adding a module to ULTIMATE Deluxe for use by onsite event photographer so there clients have the abilty to make orders via multiple viewing stations so that prints can be selected, ordered and printed onsite, quickly.

 

This works by running Jalbums in server mode and as soon as images arrive in the input folder that is watched by Jalbums (by wi-fi, tethered or card reader) the images are processed automatically to create the index.html. By then setting up a network of laptops or even screen sharing and running a browser that points at this index.html file. Guests will be able to go to any of the viewing stations and see thier picture seconds after being taken.

 

We are off course keeping one of the best and most enjoyed features of ULTIMATE in that the ability to add any image to a basket takes just one click.

 

When a client has completed their purchase and goes to the checkout, rather than enter in all their personnal details there is just one button "Buy Now" (as this will be a jpg this can easily be changed) When the button is pushed this save an order form to any location on your network. This is a similar form to the payment by cheque option currently available in ULTIMATE Deluxe. The opertor will also be able to click on the link on the order form and for it to open in the default image viewer, ie Photoshop ready to take the cash and print.

 

We would appreciate your comments and any ideas.

 

Thanks

 

Mark

 

Ammendment: 04.03.08

Thank you all so far for your comments below. Some good ideas and feedback

 

This is our intial design. We are making the ADD IMAGES buttons bigger, and seperating the buttons a bit, cosmetics really

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Below is breif explantion of the setting in Jalbums to use in server mode. The ULTIMATE Skin used here is only our development skin.

 

 


Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Hi,

This looks intresting, will it also work on macs, and any idea on price.

Spencer

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Hi Spencer,

 

Will work on MACS or any operating system. This will be different module to the on-line version of ULTIMATE Deluxe, we are looking at the price now, but we are confident that it will be far cheaper than other event photography systems currently available, as well as easier and faster for both the photographer and client.

 

Mark

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

As an Ultimate Deluxe and mac user I can't wait to try out this piece of software

As I am sure it will greatly increase the efficiency of my workflow and ultimately profits from each event, just as the montage system in Ultimate Deluxe has. Keep up the good work!!

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

hi Mark
this looks good
can i ask you would it be possible for when you take a shot
then this image would pop up with a custom form
i have some work were i need to ask some questions when i am shooting
my assistant could input the data when that persons pic appears
then when back at the office upload this to the web site
as normal

cheers charlie

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Hi,

You can add a free flowing text comment to each of the pictures in Jalbums as they arrive, it will not pop up automatically you either have to select each picture as it arrives or go next/previous, dont think you can add a form thought. There are settings in Jalbums to attach the comments to the original file but not sure where it is saved within the file data. Will need to investigate more.

 

What are you looking to do?

 

 

Mark

 

 

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Hi, How quick is it? And how much interaction do you need to do? Links in with Qimage? Thanks Andy

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Hi Andy,

I have been using a beta version on a few jobs, shooting jpeg's at 2mb each, and taking 5-8 shots of each couple/group, all the images are ready on the viewing stations in about 15-20 seconds. Bigger files than 2mb's will take longer and the spec of your main pc is a factor. Running an ACER dual core 1.3ghz with 1gb of ram.

There is no interaction required by the event photographers or assistants at all, every thing is automated excpet taking cash and printing.

You need to change a few setting in Jalbums, reverse file names so the newest pictures are at the top, automatically close dialogue box when comlpeted and select make changes rather than make album afresh, but once there set your done.

Mark

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Hello,

I am looking to start doing event photography, Do you print from this software, and can you make any alterations to the images, Do I need to install any print drivers or will this system work on any printer?

CC

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

HI MARK
AM I RIGHT IN THINKING THAT
when you take your pic that is then transfered wireless
to the computer and viewed like a contact sheet
were you can pic the required image and crop and print

cheers

charlie

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Hi Charlie,

sort of, it looks similar to our on-line version. You take a picture (wirless, tethered) and it arrives in the folder, Jalbums sees that a new image has arrived and then creates the index.html file just as normal with that images added as a thunbnail and enlarged picture. When you take another pictures, jabums sees the new image again and adds that image thumbnail and enlarged image to the list.

The client is the one that selects the image they wish to purchase, just as if they are on-line but with a few tweaks, when they push the buy button, a form a saved to your set location, similar to the one below.

event photography software

Your client gives you the cash. You can then click on the image file name that will open in your default image viewer, you crop adjust and print.

 

Mark

Are You Charlie of Royalephoto..... ?

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Hi,

You can print from any software that you like. When an order is recivied you can click on a link on the order form that will open up the images in your default viewer, Photoshop, picasa, qimage, anything that is installed on your pc and that you use and like. Any adjustments are made in this software and are then printed from here, so you dont need to insatll any print drivers apart from what you normally use and are already installed.

 

Mark

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Get a beta copy out ASAP and lets test it, Its the start of the summer sports season it would be great to see how it works. I aslo use Qimage.

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Sure, know the season is starting soon. And will off course endavour to get it ready for us all before then.

We should be ok though, but I know what I want, but wanted to make sure it fits in with all you guys as well.

 

Mark

 

 

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Sounds good. There is a company Parker Franklin Ltd that is offering their onsite soloution Free of charge. How does yours differ.

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Not really my place to comment on other companies products. When its launched you will be able to make an informed desicion which is best for you.

 

 

Mark

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Used the software from parker franklin, proofstation i think it is called, crapstation is more like it. Complete waste of time, deleted it shorty after I installed it.

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I Disagree, they have only recently made the software usable at events, I have used it and found it very simple. Especialy for my assistant who has no idea about computers and software. Its Free as well. So why go else where?

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So why go else where? BECAUSE IT DOES NOT WORK, its is slow, unstable and full of stupid bugs. I agree it is simple to print from (when it works), but any photographer or photographers assistant that can not go to photoshop or what ever they use and go, file, print. Should not really be a photographer or an assistant.

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Hello,

This blog is about ideas and comments on event viewing software, it is not here to have a go at software that is currently on the market, there are many forums on the net that you can discuss this further if you wish.

 

But not here please.

 

Mark

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Proofstation is not free, As they tie you in to their on-line service with VERY high print prices (£1.40 plus for a 4"x6" when the actual cost is now between £0.05 and £0.10 is madness) and you also have to pay their VAT, so if you are not VAT registered (as iam not) you can say good bye to 17.5% of your profit straight away.

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Proof Station is Free for event Photography printing on site.

If you have to make comments that you know nothing about please contact me and I will go through the whole costing prices.

Otherwise

Grow Up

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I think I will comment on the above post regardless of my earlier post in asking for a bit of restraint. The original topic of proofstation was not (as I later found out) a genuine photographer putting down a legitimate question, but was from the MD of a competing company using slight of hand and posting anonymously to try an promote his product on our website.

 

Personally I think it shows a lack of business etiquette.

 

I have no idea on his product, services or price, and will leave it up to photographers which is the best system that is suited for their needs

 

If you would like to see there product and service then just Google "proofstation", after all competition is great.

 

Mark

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

HURRY UP, get this launched asap. Can it connect to the Mitsubishi Click Pro system, as I hate my wet, dirty fingered clients going any where near it.

Tom

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Hi Tom,

We will look in to it and let you know.

Mark

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

New to Event photography, but i have few portrait jobs booked in the summer, how many viewing stations would you say you need for each event? And what spec do they need to be?

James

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Hi James,

Each event is different to the next, you can be busier with 100 guests than with 200. But as a rough guideline to make it quick for all I would suggest 1 veiwing station for every 200 guests, but if you can start with 2 then that is ideal.

Your spec of your viewing station can be pretty low, as there not doing anything really accept showing a webpage, (one of my viewing stations is 3 years old and cost £400 then, so it is not very fast, but works fine) they will need a network card or a fast wifi . Get some power on your main PC though, dual core and at least 1GB of ram, 2GB if you can.

Mark

 

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

I currently use a similar system based on Jalbums, wireless Nikon, a generic skins, 3 laptops, and the Mitsubishi Click Pro. I have three problems/wants.
1. The current skins are okay but not perfect, there not that intuitive for the client, and need a bit of guidance.
2. The client writes down on a piece of paper which image they want and gives it to the assistant.
3. When it comes to print from click pro, we have to search through all the images for the right file name, and what is even more annoying, the client starts to change there mind on what picture they want.

On the good side is Jalbums never really goes wrong, and we just let it do it stuff in the background.

On the whole I am happy with my workflow, it is just these annoying little things.

Will be intrested to see your release, and your price....

Red Event Photography.

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the option of buy now without detail entry is a must for onsite printing. Can clients also use this method to form a viewing folder of there own. We have found the best method on multi day events where customers may have multiple competertive rounds each day is to allocate a folder to them. Towards the end of the event they decide which images they want from that folder, this stops the grind of finding all the images again and trying to compare between folders. Also do you have a search facility on this for image comments made in camera, this would be realy usefull on some events but currently no event software seems to take it into account. Looks a good project you have got going there.

tony

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HI Tony,

We have looked at this option of a viewing folder before, or the abilty to save a basket, and it is a big job. The main problem was that it had to be cross brower compatible for our online version, maybe (and thats a big maybe) we could devolp it for just one brower when used on-site, i'll check, but you would only be able to use firefox as your browser on your viewing stations, as IE and safari deleted cookies by deafult, but i dont think that would be a great isuue for you, would it?.

I cant see us putting a searching mechaism on the camera data, but i'll investigate

 

Thanks

 

Mark

 

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

I'm sorry but I just cant see this working, I have been thinking about purchasing ultimate deluxe for a while as the montages work very well for me in the demo version. But it will take to long for them to put together a montage when on-site, fine when they are at home and they can take their time, and then we have to put it all together in photoshop to print. It will take to much time for it be feasible.

I don't mean to be negative but you did ask for our comments.

Shane

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Hi Shane,

 

Yes I agree, there is no time to sell montages on site. There is a check box in Ultimate to switch on/off the montages system so only prints are offered on-site.

 

One advantage you do have is that when you get back to the office, you switch on the montage system, change the pricing matrix to your on-line prices, make changes in Jalbums and it then only takes 30 seconds to process the whole job ready for upload with montages to your website.

 

Mark

 

 

 

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

When do you think it will be ready? before this year season starts? Price?

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Sounds great, But it depends on how much?

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Looks like a good idea, it needs to be fast, stable and easy to use for the clients and the wife. How also do you go about stopping the clients (espically at school proms) playing with the settings in the viewing stations. Do the viewing stations need keyboards?

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Hi,

 

We are looking to launch prior to the summer season for event photography. I will refrain at this time on listing a price, as it very much depends as always on the development cost. But as the basis of the event viewing software is based on ULTIMATE, we are sure that is going to be a minimal cost to us, and so will the price to you.

 

It is very easy to use, you have a few setting in Jalbums as above, and to change the pricing matrix in Ultimate is very simple. As the basis of this is based on Jalbums and ULTIMATE which has been stable and bug free for a long time, it is very stable software. I would recommend as above that the laptop that is doing the processing has some power for bigger jobs.

 

It is very easy for the clients as it is just a very simple web interface, Even pc novices find it easy, what I have found works best for me is after I have taken their pictures and I thank them, I direct them to a viewing station and just say "Click on "NEW PICTURES", and you will see your pictures"

 

I also change the jpeg image for the logo, and the gallery welcome message and offer deals for on-site printing, "Buy NOW and save £10 a print"

 

I run all the viewing stations in F11 mode, full screen. And all transactions can be done with a mouse and a click, so you do not need keyboards. If you leave your viewing stations unattneded (lap tops or screen sharing) then I would suggest you run your system in kiosk mode. Regardless I have never had a problem with people trying fool around.

 

Mark

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

How much can you earn from an event photography job?

Thanks

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Thats a diificult one to answer, there are so many factors. My lowest has been £zero, (not many of thoose thankfull) my higest is £9000 for a 5 day job. So any where in between.

 

I was speaking to an event photgrapher yesterday who done an assisgnment for a charity ball with guests posing with a celeberity, he took £5000 in two hours when printing on-site. 50% went back to the charity, but £2500 for 2 hours is a good return.

 

Mark

 

 

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

For those who are thinking about event photography either as an expansion of their business or as a part time sideline, I am running a day workshop on 23rd April on behalf of Nikon and Mitsubishi.

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You can get some valubale information on courses like this. Well worth it if you are new to event photography, even if you can already take great portraits, taking pictures of 600 students and selling to them is an art in itself.

 

Mark

 

 

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Can it handle raw files?

Sam

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

No RAW, Even if the system could process them it would take to long on such a large file size. What you can do though is save raw and jpeg, so it will process the jpeg in the normal way and you could if you wanted then access the raw later for print.

This would off course slow down the speed of the file transmisson, but you could if you wanted then choose a low jpeg file size, and that would be proccessed quicker by jalbums/ultimate

 

Are you thinking of this in more of a studio enviroment?

 

Mark

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Yes i run a studio, am i right then that it would still all work, and i would then be able to take orders and print from raw.

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Yes, The only thing you will not however be able to do is click on the order form link and for that to open your raw image, it will open the jpg. But I assume if you are looking to work from RAW in a studio you are not under the time pressure of event work?

 

Mark

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Hi Mark,

Is it faster than QImage?

Thanks & Congrats on your Products. 

Richard Crossley BA(Hons) SWPP BPPA

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Hi, It is not intended to replace Qimage or any of your preferred printing software, PS, Qimage, picasa, This is viewing and ordering system. You can still use Qimage (as i do often) to do all your printing. One thing that has been suggested is that all the ordered images are put in a folder that Qimage looks at, similar to Mitsi Click pro system, and we are investigating that.

 

Mark

 

 

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

It would be really, really cool if this was set up to work with Click Pro.

Kevin Morhan

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

I am a MAC user, and there is only one disadvantage with macs, there a lot more expensive than a PC notebook, you can pick up a PC notebook for $300 these days (poor as they are, sorry could not help myself.) It would be an expensive outlay to have MACS running just as viewing stations. Could the main PC be my Mac Book Pro and then have the cheap windows pc's as the viewing stations?

Create-Events.
Texas

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Hi,

 

I cant see why not, it is just a case of networking a windows based PC's with Macs. Which I know you can do, although I have never done it my self. I'll investigate further

 

Mark

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

I run macs and pcs on the same network, no hassle

Re: Event Photography Software with On-site Printing

Investigated. That was easy.

 

Thanks

 

Mark